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		<title>By: Mark Wilkinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Wilkinson</dc:creator>
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		<description>Hi Marilyn,

I&#039;m quite torn about this posting, for a number of reasons.  My initial reaction was to consider my own experience - for me, women have been &quot;worthy competitors&quot;, and more importantly, mentors, throughout my career.  I remember Jana in high-school... untouchable (I mean that grade-wise!!) - we competed for highest-standing every year, and I would regularly lose :-/    I remember vividly Dana, in my undergraduate programme at U of A, and a far superior student to me... beat me every time!  Liz - my best friend, and a biochemist (different field), but nevertheless crucified me at every turn grades-wise...and had found the &quot;women in science&quot; programme that had just started at UofA, so was being mentored by successful women faculty members.  I learned from a very early age that women were (and always have been) not just my equals, but my competitors!  When I finished my PhD, I moved to Germany *specifically* to work for (and with) a woman, who I considered to be the best in the world at her area of science!  I have to admit that I smiled and was a bit taken-aback by the way she &quot;mothered&quot; me through my first year with her (e.g. I was not *allowed* to do an experiment by myself!  I simply had to stand beside her and watch her do it... and learn...)... but at the end of the day, I *did* learn!  I DID absorb what she had to offer, and I am forever grateful to her!  (and I cried my eyes out for a week when she died last year :-( )  I am now UBC faculty of medicine, in a department that is dominated by women... our department head is (as of last week) a woman, and most of the faculty members are women.  Frankly, I don&#039;t normally notice this - I don&#039;t care! - but in the context of your posting I do notice it.   

All this leads me to say that, in **my** world, women have not only become equals, they have often over-taken men v.v. leadership roles.  In **my** world, the battle of the sexes is OVER!   

...but...  I understand that it is not over in all other domains :-)

However, what concerns me more is that the pendulum is swinging too far in the other direction!  In the past 5 years I have been listening intently to the numerous reports like the one I am linking below (it isn&#039;t necessarily the BEST one, only the one that I could find off-the-cuff to include in this conversation).  Boys are now being *intensively* discriminated-against in our schools!  why?  Because our entire society has become... feminized!  (e.g. http://www.british-ild.com/downloads/articles/Feminisation.pdf)  Being &quot;just a normal boy&quot; is now considered to be abhorrent!!  Good lord, we don&#039;t want aggression!...but that is un-doing millions of years of evolution!!  LOL!  We *must* accept that men/women/boys/girls are DIFFERENT, and stop trying to boil them in the same &quot;soup&quot;.  

Equally competent, COMPLETELY different in how they get there... and we&#039;re now pandering to the girls, just as we used to pander to the boys... and the result is no better now than it was then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Marilyn,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m quite torn about this posting, for a number of reasons.  My initial reaction was to consider my own experience &#8211; for me, women have been &#8220;worthy competitors&#8221;, and more importantly, mentors, throughout my career.  I remember Jana in high-school&#8230; untouchable (I mean that grade-wise!!) &#8211; we competed for highest-standing every year, and I would regularly lose :-/    I remember vividly Dana, in my undergraduate programme at U of A, and a far superior student to me&#8230; beat me every time!  Liz &#8211; my best friend, and a biochemist (different field), but nevertheless crucified me at every turn grades-wise&#8230;and had found the &#8220;women in science&#8221; programme that had just started at UofA, so was being mentored by successful women faculty members.  I learned from a very early age that women were (and always have been) not just my equals, but my competitors!  When I finished my PhD, I moved to Germany *specifically* to work for (and with) a woman, who I considered to be the best in the world at her area of science!  I have to admit that I smiled and was a bit taken-aback by the way she &#8220;mothered&#8221; me through my first year with her (e.g. I was not *allowed* to do an experiment by myself!  I simply had to stand beside her and watch her do it&#8230; and learn&#8230;)&#8230; but at the end of the day, I *did* learn!  I DID absorb what she had to offer, and I am forever grateful to her!  (and I cried my eyes out for a week when she died last year <img src='http://marilynburgess.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' />  )  I am now UBC faculty of medicine, in a department that is dominated by women&#8230; our department head is (as of last week) a woman, and most of the faculty members are women.  Frankly, I don&#8217;t normally notice this &#8211; I don&#8217;t care! &#8211; but in the context of your posting I do notice it.   </p>
<p>All this leads me to say that, in **my** world, women have not only become equals, they have often over-taken men v.v. leadership roles.  In **my** world, the battle of the sexes is OVER!   </p>
<p>&#8230;but&#8230;  I understand that it is not over in all other domains <img src='http://marilynburgess.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>However, what concerns me more is that the pendulum is swinging too far in the other direction!  In the past 5 years I have been listening intently to the numerous reports like the one I am linking below (it isn&#8217;t necessarily the BEST one, only the one that I could find off-the-cuff to include in this conversation).  Boys are now being *intensively* discriminated-against in our schools!  why?  Because our entire society has become&#8230; feminized!  (e.g. <a href="http://www.british-ild.com/downloads/articles/Feminisation.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.british-ild.com/downloads/articles/Feminisation.pdf</a>)  Being &#8220;just a normal boy&#8221; is now considered to be abhorrent!!  Good lord, we don&#8217;t want aggression!&#8230;but that is un-doing millions of years of evolution!!  LOL!  We *must* accept that men/women/boys/girls are DIFFERENT, and stop trying to boil them in the same &#8220;soup&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Equally competent, COMPLETELY different in how they get there&#8230; and we&#8217;re now pandering to the girls, just as we used to pander to the boys&#8230; and the result is no better now than it was then.</p>
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